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CREATING THE CIRCULAR FIRING SQUAD THAT NOBODY WANTS TO SQUAD THAT NOBODY WANTS TO WATCH. WATCH.>>YEAH.>>YEAH.>>YEAH.>>YEAH.>>SPEAKING OF U.S. SENATOR>>SPEAKING OF U.S. SENATOR KAMALA HARRIS, SHE JOINS US NOW. KAMALA HARRIS, SHE JOINS US NOW. CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT. CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT. KAMALA, GREAT TO HAVE YOU ON KAMALA, GREAT TO HAVE YOU ON THIS MORNING. THIS MORNING.>>THANKS FOR BEING ON KAMALA.>>THANKS FOR BEING ON KAMALA.>>GOOD MORNING.>>GOOD MORNING.>>WE’VE BEEN A BUNCH OF OLD>>WE’VE BEEN A BUNCH OF OLD DUDES, SMOKING CIGARETTES, DUDES, SMOKING CIGARETTES, ASKING WHY PEOPLE CAN’T HIT ASKING WHY PEOPLE CAN’T HIT 102-MILE-AN-HOUR FASTBALLS UNDER 102-MILE-AN-HOUR FASTBALLS UNDER THEIR CHIN. THEIR CHIN. SO, GO AHEAD. SO, GO AHEAD. TELL US HOW IT WAS LAST NIGHT. TELL US HOW IT WAS LAST NIGHT.>>HOW DID IT GO?>>HOW DID IT GO?>>HOW DO YOU THINK THE DEBATE>>HOW DO YOU THINK THE DEBATE WENT? WENT?>>IT WAS GREAT.>>IT WAS GREAT. IT WAS GREAT. IT WAS GREAT. YOU KNOW, JOE, I HAVE TO YOU KNOW, JOE, I HAVE TO AGREE — BUT I HAVE TO AGREE AGREE — BUT I HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOU, IT WAS QUITE JOYLESS. WITH YOU, IT WAS QUITE JOYLESS.>>YEAH.>>YEAH.>>I MEAN, LISTEN.>>I MEAN, LISTEN. I MEAN, LOOK, THIS IS JUST PART I MEAN, LOOK, THIS IS JUST PART OF THE PROCESS, RIGHT? OF THE PROCESS, RIGHT? AND THE REALITY OF THE PROCESS AND THE REALITY OF THE PROCESS IS THAT THESE DEBATES TAKE PLACE IS THAT THESE DEBATES TAKE PLACE BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE RACE. THAT ARE IN THE RACE. YOU KNOW, IT’S A WIDE STAGE AND YOU KNOW, IT’S A WIDE STAGE AND THERE’S NOT A LOT OF TIME TO THERE’S NOT A LOT OF TIME TO TALK ABOUT VERY IMPORTANT TALK ABOUT VERY IMPORTANT ISSUES. ISSUES. AND, YOU KNOW, SO YOU SEE WHAT AND, YOU KNOW, SO YOU SEE WHAT YOU SEE. YOU SEE.>>SO DO YOU THINK THAT WHEN THE>>SO DO YOU THINK THAT WHEN THE NEXT DEBATE COMES ALONG AND NEXT DEBATE COMES ALONG AND WE’RE DOWN TO MAYBE SEVEN, WE’RE DOWN TO MAYBE SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE CANDIDATES, DO YOU EIGHT, NINE CANDIDATES, DO YOU THINK THE — JUST THE ENTIRE THINK THE — JUST THE ENTIRE ATMOSPHERE AROUND THE DEBATE ATMOSPHERE AROUND THE DEBATE ITSELF MAY CHANGE CONSIDERABLY? ITSELF MAY CHANGE CONSIDERABLY?>>I HOPE SO.>>I HOPE SO. YOU KNOW, LISTEN, THE BOTTOM YOU KNOW, LISTEN, THE BOTTOM LINE — AND I THINK YOU GUYS LINE — AND I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE SAID IT WELL. HAVE SAID IT WELL. AND PEOPLE ON THE STAGE SAID IT AND PEOPLE ON THE STAGE SAID IT LAST NIGHT. LAST NIGHT. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THIS IS THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THIS IS AN ELECTION THAT IS GOING TO BE AN ELECTION THAT IS GOING TO BE ABOUT WHICH OF THE DEMOCRATS ARE ABOUT WHICH OF THE DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO MAKE THE MOST GOING TO MAKE THE MOST PERSUASIVE CASE ABOUT WHY WE PERSUASIVE CASE ABOUT WHY WE NEED A NEW PRESIDENT AND WHY THE NEED A NEW PRESIDENT AND WHY THE CURRENT OCCUPANT OF THE WHITE CURRENT OCCUPANT OF THE WHITE HOUSE SHOULD GO. HOUSE SHOULD GO. AND I HOPE WE REALLY DO START TO AND I HOPE WE REALLY DO START TO FOCUS MORE ON WHAT WILL BE THE FOCUS MORE ON WHAT WILL BE THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN WHO WE ARE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN WHO WE ARE AND THE CURRENT OCCUPANT OF THE AND THE CURRENT OCCUPANT OF THE WHITE HOUSE AND THEN GIVE THE WHITE HOUSE AND THEN GIVE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, CLEAR AMERICAN PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, CLEAR OPTIONS IN TERMS OF WHERE PEOPLE OPTIONS IN TERMS OF WHERE PEOPLE STAND ON POLICY, WHERE WE STAND STAND ON POLICY, WHERE WE STAND ON WHAT SHOULD BE THE STANDING ON WHAT SHOULD BE THE STANDING OF THE UNITED STATES. OF THE UNITED STATES. WHAT SHOULD BE OUR MISSION, WHAT WHAT SHOULD BE OUR MISSION, WHAT SHOULD BE OUR FUTURE. SHOULD BE OUR FUTURE. WHAT SHOULD BE THE VISION OF OUR WHAT SHOULD BE THE VISION OF OUR FUTURE. FUTURE. YOU KNOW, THERE’S SO MUCH ABOUT YOU KNOW, THERE’S SO MUCH ABOUT THIS CAMPAIGN AND THIS ELECTION THIS CAMPAIGN AND THIS ELECTION THAT I BELIEVE IS GOING TO BE A THAT I BELIEVE IS GOING TO BE A STATEMENT ABOUT WHO WE ARE AS A STATEMENT ABOUT WHO WE ARE AS A NATION AND, AS I SAID LAST NATION AND, AS I SAID LAST NIGHT, I STRONGLY BELIEVE WE ARE NIGHT, I STRONGLY BELIEVE WE ARE BETTER THAN THIS. BETTER THAN THIS. SO I HOPE WE CAN GET TO THAT SO I HOPE WE CAN GET TO THAT POINT OF HAVING A REAL POINT OF HAVING A REAL CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE THERE’S SO MUCH AT STAKE RIGHT THERE’S SO MUCH AT STAKE RIGHT NOW. NOW. AND, YOU KNOW, I’M TRAVELING AND, YOU KNOW, I’M TRAVELING AROUND THE COUNTRY, SPENDING AROUND THE COUNTRY, SPENDING TIME IN IOWA, SOUTH CAROLINA, TIME IN IOWA, SOUTH CAROLINA, NEW HAMPSHIRE AND NEVADA TO NEW HAMPSHIRE AND NEVADA TO START. START. AND WHEN PEOPLE SHOW UP AT THESE AND WHEN PEOPLE SHOW UP AT THESE EVENTS AND THESE TOWN HALLS, EVENTS AND THESE TOWN HALLS, THEY COULD BE DOING SO MANY THEY COULD BE DOING SO MANY OTHER THINGS. OTHER THINGS. THEY HAVE BIG LIVES. THEY HAVE BIG LIVES. AND THEY COME BECAUSE THEY ARE AND THEY COME BECAUSE THEY ARE TRULY INVESTED IN THE FUTURE OF TRULY INVESTED IN THE FUTURE OF OUR COUNTRY AND THEY WANT TO OUR COUNTRY AND THEY WANT TO HAVE AN HONEST, CANDID, REAL HAVE AN HONEST, CANDID, REAL CONVERSATION ABOUT THE ISSUES. CONVERSATION ABOUT THE ISSUES. AND THAT’S WHERE WE’VE GOT TO AND THAT’S WHERE WE’VE GOT TO GO. GO. MY AGENDA IS ABOUT WHAT WAKES MY AGENDA IS ABOUT WHAT WAKES PEOPLE UP AT 3:00 IN THE PEOPLE UP AT 3:00 IN THE MORNING. MORNING. AND THAT’S GOING TO BE ABOUT AND THAT’S GOING TO BE ABOUT THEIR HEALTH CARE. THEIR HEALTH CARE. CAN THEY GET A JOB, KEEP A JOB? CAN THEY GET A JOB, KEEP A JOB? CAN THEY PAY THE BILLS BY THE CAN THEY PAY THE BILLS BY THE END OF THE MONTH? END OF THE MONTH? THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT AMERICAN PEOPLE HEAR ABOUT. AMERICAN PEOPLE HEAR ABOUT. GET TO A MORE FOCUSED GET TO A MORE FOCUSED CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT OUR BEST CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT OUR BEST PLAN IS FOR THAT. PLAN IS FOR THAT.>>A LOT OF US ARM CHAIR>>A LOT OF US ARM CHAIR POLITICIANS LAST NIGHT AND THIS POLITICIANS LAST NIGHT AND THIS MORNING WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW MORNING WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW DEMOCRATS WERE ATTACKING BARACK DEMOCRATS WERE ATTACKING BARACK OBAMA TOO MUCH. OBAMA TOO MUCH. 97% OF APPROVAL RATING OF THE 97% OF APPROVAL RATING OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, AFFORDABLE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, SUPPORTED BY 82%, 83% CARE ACT, SUPPORTED BY 82%, 83% OF DEMOCRATS. OF DEMOCRATS.>>YEAH.>>YEAH.>>I ASKED CORY BOOKER ABOUT HIS>>I ASKED CORY BOOKER ABOUT HIS CRITICISMS OF BARACK OBAMA’S CRITICISMS OF BARACK OBAMA’S IMMIGRATION POLICIES. IMMIGRATION POLICIES. I’LL ASK YOU. I’LL ASK YOU. WERE YOU CRITICIZING BARACK WERE YOU CRITICIZING BARACK OBAMA’S AFFORDABLE CARE ACT LAST OBAMA’S AFFORDABLE CARE ACT LAST NIGHT? NIGHT? DO YOU THINK IT WAS TOO DO YOU THINK IT WAS TOO CONSERVATIVE? CONSERVATIVE? AND SHOULD DEMOCRATS BE MORE AND SHOULD DEMOCRATS BE MORE FOCUSED ON MENDING THE FOCUSED ON MENDING THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT AND ALSO AFFORDABLE CARE ACT AND ALSO TALKING ABOUT HOW DONALD TRUMP’S TALKING ABOUT HOW DONALD TRUMP’S TRYING TO DESTROY IT? TRYING TO DESTROY IT?>>LET ME UNPACK YOUR QUESTION.>>LET ME UNPACK YOUR QUESTION. FIRST OF ALL, BARACK OBAMA WAS FIRST OF ALL, BARACK OBAMA WAS AN EXTRAORDINARY PRESIDENT AND AN EXTRAORDINARY PRESIDENT AND PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST PRESIDENTS IN OUR LIFETIMES. PRESIDENTS IN OUR LIFETIMES. WHAT HE ACCOMPLISHED TO GET THE WHAT HE ACCOMPLISHED TO GET THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT TO COME INTO AFFORDABLE CARE ACT TO COME INTO BEING WAS EXTRAORDINARY. BEING WAS EXTRAORDINARY. DECADES OF PRESIDENTS HAVE TRIED DECADES OF PRESIDENTS HAVE TRIED TO REFORM THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM TO REFORM THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM OF AMERICA AND BARACK OBAMA OF AMERICA AND BARACK OBAMA ACTUALLY DID IT. ACTUALLY DID IT. IN HIS OWN WORDS HE HAS SAID IT IN HIS OWN WORDS HE HAS SAID IT WAS A STARTER HOUSE. WAS A STARTER HOUSE. HE HE HAS SAID MEDICARE FOR ALL HE HE HAS SAID MEDICARE FOR ALL IS A GOOD IDEA. IS A GOOD IDEA. I TALK ABOUT MY MEDICARE FOR ALL I TALK ABOUT MY MEDICARE FOR ALL PLAN, IT IS ABOUT BUILDING ON PLAN, IT IS ABOUT BUILDING ON THE SUCCESS OF WHAT PRESIDENT THE SUCCESS OF WHAT PRESIDENT OBAMA ACHIEVED, AND, YOU KNOW, OBAMA ACHIEVED, AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT IT, THERE IS WHEN WE LOOK AT IT, THERE IS STILL WORK TO BE DONE. STILL WORK TO BE DONE. MY MEDICARE FOR ALL PLAN IS MY MEDICARE FOR ALL PLAN IS ABOUT SAYING LET’S MAKE SURE ABOUT SAYING LET’S MAKE SURE COST IS NOT A BARRIER TO COST IS NOT A BARRIER TO PEOPLE’S ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE. PEOPLE’S ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE. LET’S MAKE SURE PEOPLE HAVE AN LET’S MAKE SURE PEOPLE HAVE AN OPTION, PRIVATE PLAN IF THAT’S OPTION, PRIVATE PLAN IF THAT’S WHAT THEY WANT. WHAT THEY WANT. SO MANY PEOPLE GAVE ME FEEDBACK SO MANY PEOPLE GAVE ME FEEDBACK AND SAID I WANT TO KNOW THAT I AND SAID I WANT TO KNOW THAT I ALSO CAN HAVE A PRIVATE PLAN ALSO CAN HAVE A PRIVATE PLAN OPTION UNDER YOUR MEDICARE FOR OPTION UNDER YOUR MEDICARE FOR ALL SYSTEM, WHICH IS WHY I CAME ALL SYSTEM, WHICH IS WHY I CAME UP WITH OUR OWN VISION OF WHAT UP WITH OUR OWN VISION OF WHAT IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE, INSTEAD OF IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE, INSTEAD OF JUST, YOU KNOW, ACCEPTING THE JUST, YOU KNOW, ACCEPTING THE PROPOSALS THAT EXIST. PROPOSALS THAT EXIST.>>WELL, SENATOR HARRIS, JOE>>WELL, SENATOR HARRIS, JOE BIDEN WENT AFTER YOUR PLAN. BIDEN WENT AFTER YOUR PLAN. HE SAID IT’S CHANGED A FEW HE SAID IT’S CHANGED A FEW TIMES. TIMES. THEN HE TALKED ABOUT THE MASSIVE THEN HE TALKED ABOUT THE MASSIVE COST OF YOUR PLAN. COST OF YOUR PLAN. AND THAT IT’S SIMPLY NOT AND THAT IT’S SIMPLY NOT FEASIBLE, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE FEASIBLE, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE COST. COST. THINGS WILL HAPPEN THAT WILL END THINGS WILL HAPPEN THAT WILL END UP BEING MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE FOR UP BEING MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE FOR THE VERY VOTERS WHO REALLY WANT THE VERY VOTERS WHO REALLY WANT HEALTH CARE COVERAGE. HEALTH CARE COVERAGE. ARE YOU WORRIED THAT PERHAPS ARE YOU WORRIED THAT PERHAPS YOUR PLAN IS NOT GOING TO GET YOUR PLAN IS NOT GOING TO GET THE BROAD SUPPORT IT NEEDS SO THE BROAD SUPPORT IT NEEDS SO THAT YOU CAN APPEAL TO PEOPLE THAT YOU CAN APPEAL TO PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE DISGUSTED WITH WHO MIGHT BE DISGUSTED WITH TRUMP BUT DON’T WANT SOMETHING TRUMP BUT DON’T WANT SOMETHING SO EXTREME THAT THEY’RE NOT SO EXTREME THAT THEY’RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH IT? COMFORTABLE WITH IT?>>YOU KNOW, MIKA, I’LL TELL>>YOU KNOW, MIKA, I’LL TELL YOU, VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN AND I YOU, VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN AND I HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION ON HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION ON THIS. THIS. THE CURRENT — THE STATUS QUO IS THE CURRENT — THE STATUS QUO IS NOT WORKING. NOT WORKING. IN AMERICA TODAY, 30 MILLION IN AMERICA TODAY, 30 MILLION PEOPLE ARE WITHOUT ACCESS TO PEOPLE ARE WITHOUT ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE. HEALTH CARE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PLAN THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PLAN THAT THE VICE PRESIDENT IS OFFERING, THE VICE PRESIDENT IS OFFERING, AS MANY AS 10 MILLION PEOPLE AS MANY AS 10 MILLION PEOPLE WILL BE WITHOUT COVERAGE. WILL BE WITHOUT COVERAGE. THAT’S JUST NOT TENABLE. THAT’S JUST NOT TENABLE. WHEN I’M TRAVELING THIS COUNTRY, WHEN I’M TRAVELING THIS COUNTRY, THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE THAT PEOPLE THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE THAT PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IS HEALTH CARE. TALK ABOUT IS HEALTH CARE. AND IT IS ONE OF THE NUMBER ONE AND IT IS ONE OF THE NUMBER ONE ISSUES THAT KEEP THEM UP AT ISSUES THAT KEEP THEM UP AT NIGHT. NIGHT. AND IT’S A VERY PERSONAL ISSUE. AND IT’S A VERY PERSONAL ISSUE. PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW THAT THEY PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW THAT THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE OPTIONS HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE OPTIONS WHEN THEY GO TO A HOSPITAL, WHEN WHEN THEY GO TO A HOSPITAL, WHEN THEY GO TO A DOCTOR. THEY GO TO A DOCTOR. MY PLAN IS ABOUT SAYING WHEN YOU MY PLAN IS ABOUT SAYING WHEN YOU WALK IN THAT DOCTOR’S OFFICE THE WALK IN THAT DOCTOR’S OFFICE THE FIRST THING YOU DO, YOU DON’T FIRST THING YOU DO, YOU DON’T HAVE TO PUT DOWN YOUR CREDIT HAVE TO PUT DOWN YOUR CREDIT CARD. CARD. YOU PUT DOWN YOUR MEDICARE CARD. YOU PUT DOWN YOUR MEDICARE CARD. MY PLAN IS ABOUT SAYING ENOUGH. MY PLAN IS ABOUT SAYING ENOUGH. WE’RE GOING TO GET RID OF THE WE’RE GOING TO GET RID OF THE DEDUCTIBLES, CO-PAYS. DEDUCTIBLES, CO-PAYS. THE INSURANCE COMPANIES HAVE THE INSURANCE COMPANIES HAVE BEEN JACKING THOSE UP FOR YEARS. BEEN JACKING THOSE UP FOR YEARS. WE’RE GOING TO TAKE THAT PROFIT WE’RE GOING TO TAKE THAT PROFIT OUT OF THE PROCESS. OUT OF THE PROCESS. I’M GOING TO ALLOW PRIVATE I’M GOING TO ALLOW PRIVATE INSURERS TO BE PART OF MY INSURERS TO BE PART OF MY MEDICARE SYSTEM BUT THEY HAVE TO MEDICARE SYSTEM BUT THEY HAVE TO PLAY BY OUR RULES AND THAT MEANS PLAY BY OUR RULES AND THAT MEANS ADDRESSING THE FACT THAT THE TOP ADDRESSING THE FACT THAT THE TOP EIGHT INSURANCE COMPANIES AND EIGHT INSURANCE COMPANIES AND PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES LAST PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES LAST YEAR PROFITED $72 BILLION ON THE YEAR PROFITED $72 BILLION ON THE BACKS OF AMERICAN FAMILIES. BACKS OF AMERICAN FAMILIES. THAT’S JUST NOT RIGHT. THAT’S JUST NOT RIGHT. AND WE HAVE TO BRING THE AND WE HAVE TO BRING THE INSURANCE COMPANIES UNDER INSURANCE COMPANIES UNDER CONTROL. CONTROL. AND UNDER MY PLAN, WE’LL DO AND UNDER MY PLAN, WE’LL DO THAT. THAT. BUT ALSO GIVING AMERICAN PEOPLE BUT ALSO GIVING AMERICAN PEOPLE THE OPTION TO HAVE A PRIVATE THE OPTION TO HAVE A PRIVATE PLAN OR A PUBLIC PLAN. PLAN OR A PUBLIC PLAN.>>SO, STICKING WITH HEALTH>>SO, STICKING WITH HEALTH CARE, STEVE RATTNER WANTS TO CARE, STEVE RATTNER WANTS TO JUMP IN. JUMP IN. STEVE? STEVE?>>SENATOR, JUST TO FOLLOW UP –>>SENATOR, JUST TO FOLLOW UP –>>HI, STEVE.>>HI, STEVE.>>HI.>>HI. HOW ARE YOU? HOW ARE YOU? JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT MIKA JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT MIKA WAS SAYING, UNDER BERNIE WAS SAYING, UNDER BERNIE SANDERS’ OWN ACCOUNTING, SANDERS’ OWN ACCOUNTING, MEDICARE FOR ALL WOULD COST $3 MEDICARE FOR ALL WOULD COST $3 TRILLION A YEAR. TRILLION A YEAR. THAT POINT WAS MADE BY JOE BIDEN THAT POINT WAS MADE BY JOE BIDEN A COUPLE OF TIMES AND MICHAEL A COUPLE OF TIMES AND MICHAEL BENNET POINTED OUT 70% OF OUR BENNET POINTED OUT 70% OF OUR TOTAL TAX REVENUES AND WILL HAVE TOTAL TAX REVENUES AND WILL HAVE TO BE PAID FOR SOMEHOW. TO BE PAID FOR SOMEHOW. THAT’S FACT ONE. THAT’S FACT ONE. FACT TWO IS EVEN YOUR PLAN WOULD FACT TWO IS EVEN YOUR PLAN WOULD ELIMINATE PRIVATE INSURANCE AT ELIMINATE PRIVATE INSURANCE AT THE END OF TEN YEARS. THE END OF TEN YEARS. SO THE QUESTION IS, ARE THE SO THE QUESTION IS, ARE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE GOING, AS MUCH AMERICAN PEOPLE GOING, AS MUCH AS WE WANT BETTER HEALTH CARE, AS WE WANT BETTER HEALTH CARE, AS MUCH AS WE NEED TO IMPROVE AS MUCH AS WE NEED TO IMPROVE THE ACA, WE ALL AGREE ON THAT. THE ACA, WE ALL AGREE ON THAT. ARE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE GOING TO ARE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE GOING TO VOTE, THE MAJORITY OF THEM, FOR VOTE, THE MAJORITY OF THEM, FOR A DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE WHEN IT A DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE WHEN IT COMES TO A $3 TRILLION PRICE TAG COMES TO A $3 TRILLION PRICE TAG AND EVENTUAL ELIMINATION OF AND EVENTUAL ELIMINATION OF PRIVATE INSURANCE? PRIVATE INSURANCE?>>MY PLAN DOESN’T ELIMINATE>>MY PLAN DOESN’T ELIMINATE PRIVATE INSURANCE. PRIVATE INSURANCE. IT ACTUALLY ALLOWS PRIVATE IT ACTUALLY ALLOWS PRIVATE INSURERS TO COMPETE IN MY INSURERS TO COMPETE IN MY MEDICARE FOR ALL SYSTEM. MEDICARE FOR ALL SYSTEM. THEY HAVE TO BE CERTIFIED. THEY HAVE TO BE CERTIFIED. THEY HAVE TO COMPLY BY THE THEY HAVE TO COMPLY BY THE RULES, SUCH AS BRINGING DOWN RULES, SUCH AS BRINGING DOWN COSTS, SUCH AS STOPPING THE COSTS, SUCH AS STOPPING THE PLANS THAT TELL PEOPLE WHERE THE PLANS THAT TELL PEOPLE WHERE THE SEE THEIR DOCTOR, GIVING THEM SEE THEIR DOCTOR, GIVING THEM MORE CHOICE AND BRINGING DOWN MORE CHOICE AND BRINGING DOWN COST. COST. THE PRIVATE INSURERS ARE PART OF THE PRIVATE INSURERS ARE PART OF MY PLAN. MY PLAN. IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL COST, IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL COST, STEVE, RIGHT NOW WE’RE SPENDING STEVE, RIGHT NOW WE’RE SPENDING $3 TRILLION A YEAR ON HEALTH $3 TRILLION A YEAR ON HEALTH CARE IN AMERICA. CARE IN AMERICA. OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS, IT’S OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS, IT’S ESTIMATED WE’LL SPEND $6 ESTIMATED WE’LL SPEND $6 TRILLION. TRILLION. THE COST OF DOING NOTHING IS FAR THE COST OF DOING NOTHING IS FAR MORE EXPENSIVE, AND THE BOTTOM MORE EXPENSIVE, AND THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT PEOPLE IN AMERICA LINE IS THAT PEOPLE IN AMERICA TODAY, MILLIONS OF PEOPLE, ARE TODAY, MILLIONS OF PEOPLE, ARE WITHOUT ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE. WITHOUT ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE. WE HAVE TO FIX THIS SYSTEM. WE HAVE TO FIX THIS SYSTEM. WE HAVE TO AGREE. WE HAVE TO AGREE. ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE SHOULD BE ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE SHOULD BE A RIGHT AND NOT A PRIVILEGE OF A RIGHT AND NOT A PRIVILEGE OF JUST THOSE WHO CAN AFFORD IT. JUST THOSE WHO CAN AFFORD IT.>>HI, SENATOR.>>HI, SENATOR. YOU GAVE A GREAT, IMPASSIONED YOU GAVE A GREAT, IMPASSIONED SPEECH ABOUT IMPEACHMENT. SPEECH ABOUT IMPEACHMENT. IF YOU WERE IN FRONT OF NANCY IF YOU WERE IN FRONT OF NANCY PELOSI, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO PELOSI, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO HER TOWARD MOVING TOWARD HER TOWARD MOVING TOWARD IMPEACHMENT INQUIRIES. IMPEACHMENT INQUIRIES.>>I’M NOT TRYING TO MOVE NANCY.>>I’M NOT TRYING TO MOVE NANCY. I THINK NANCY IS VERY SMART, AND I THINK NANCY IS VERY SMART, AND I WOULD NEVER TELL HER WHAT TO I WOULD NEVER TELL HER WHAT TO DO. DO. MY POSITION IS THAT, YOU KNOW, MY POSITION IS THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVING READ THE MUELLER REPORT, HAVING READ THE MUELLER REPORT, SEEING THAT THERE ARE CLEARLY AT SEEING THAT THERE ARE CLEARLY AT LEAST TEN VERY SPECIFIC ACTS OF LEAST TEN VERY SPECIFIC ACTS OF OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE THAT WERE OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE THAT WERE NOT INDICTED SIMPLY BECAUSE NOT INDICTED SIMPLY BECAUSE THERE’S A DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE THERE’S A DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE MEMO THAT SAYS A SITTING MEMO THAT SAYS A SITTING PRESIDENT CANNOT BE INDICTED, PRESIDENT CANNOT BE INDICTED, TELLS ME — AND IF YOU READ THE TELLS ME — AND IF YOU READ THE REPORT, BUT ALSO IF YOU READ THE REPORT, BUT ALSO IF YOU READ THE MEMO FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF MEMO FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, YOU’LL SEE THAT IT JUSTICE, YOU’LL SEE THAT IT MAKES EXPLICIT THAT ALTHOUGH THE MAKES EXPLICIT THAT ALTHOUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE MAY NOT DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE MAY NOT ACT, THERE IS ROOM AND A PLACE ACT, THERE IS ROOM AND A PLACE FOR CONGRESS TO ACT. FOR CONGRESS TO ACT. AND SO MY POSITION IS THAT AND SO MY POSITION IS THAT CONGRESS SHOULD ACT BECAUSE CONGRESS SHOULD ACT BECAUSE THERE SHOULD BE ACCOUNTABILITY THERE SHOULD BE ACCOUNTABILITY AND CONSEQUENCE. AND CONSEQUENCE. THE BEAUTY OF OUR SYSTEM OF THE BEAUTY OF OUR SYSTEM OF DEMOCRACY IS THAT WE DESIGNED IT DEMOCRACY IS THAT WE DESIGNED IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT THERE WOULD IN SUCH A WAY THAT THERE WOULD BE CHECKS AND BALANCES. BE CHECKS AND BALANCES. THAT THERE WOULD BE NO BRANCH OF THAT THERE WOULD BE NO BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT THAT HAS EXCESSIVE GOVERNMENT THAT HAS EXCESSIVE POWER AND CERTAINLY NO BRANCH OF POWER AND CERTAINLY NO BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT THAT CAN ABUSE THEIR GOVERNMENT THAT CAN ABUSE THEIR POWER. POWER. AND SO IF THIS CASE, AND SO IF THIS CASE, SPECIFICALLY, WHERE THERE HAS SPECIFICALLY, WHERE THERE HAS BEEN CLEAR ACTS OF OBSTRUCTION BEEN CLEAR ACTS OF OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE, CONGRESS MUST ACT TO OF JUSTICE, CONGRESS MUST ACT TO ENSURE THERE WILL BE THOSE ENSURE THERE WILL BE THOSE CHECKS AND BALANCES. CHECKS AND BALANCES. SO I DO SUPPORT PROCEEDING WITH SO I DO SUPPORT PROCEEDING WITH A PROCESS TOWARD IMPEACHMENT A PROCESS TOWARD IMPEACHMENT BECAUSE, LISTEN, I’VE SEEN BECAUSE, LISTEN, I’VE SEEN PEOPLE GO TO PRISON FOR FAR LESS PEOPLE GO TO PRISON FOR FAR LESS THAN THE EVIDENCE WE HAVE RIGHT THAN THE EVIDENCE WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF THIS PRESIDENT. NOW IN TERMS OF THIS PRESIDENT.>>SENATOR HARRIS, FIRST OF ALL,>>SENATOR HARRIS, FIRST OF ALL, YOU HAVE A GREAT LAUGH. YOU HAVE A GREAT LAUGH. I WISH I HEARD IT MORE. I WISH I HEARD IT MORE. BUT SECONDLY, I WANT TO TALK TO BUT SECONDLY, I WANT TO TALK TO YOU THIS MORNING NOT AS AN OLD YOU THIS MORNING NOT AS AN OLD NEWSPAPER COLUMNIST BUT AS A NEWSPAPER COLUMNIST BUT AS A VOTER. VOTER. AS A CITIZEN OF A COUNTRY THAT I AS A CITIZEN OF A COUNTRY THAT I LOVE VERY MUCH. LOVE VERY MUCH. MY WIFE AND I HAVE A BUNCH OF MY WIFE AND I HAVE A BUNCH OF KIDS. KIDS. WE’VE HAD KIDS TREATED FOR WE’VE HAD KIDS TREATED FOR CANCER. CANCER. WE HAVE A SPECIAL NEEDS WE HAVE A SPECIAL NEEDS DAUGHTER. DAUGHTER. AND WE HAVE GRANDCHILDREN. AND WE HAVE GRANDCHILDREN. AND FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY AND FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE, I AM WORRIED ABOUT MY LIFE, I AM WORRIED ABOUT MY GRANDCHILDREN. GRANDCHILDREN. I’M WORRIED ABOUT THE CHANGING I’M WORRIED ABOUT THE CHANGING CULTURE OF THIS COUNTRY IN TERMS CULTURE OF THIS COUNTRY IN TERMS OF WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS DOING OF WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS DOING TO DIVIDE US, CONTINUALLY, EVERY TO DIVIDE US, CONTINUALLY, EVERY DAY, AND I WANT TO KNOW FROM YOU DAY, AND I WANT TO KNOW FROM YOU IF YOU BECAME PRESIDENT OF THE IF YOU BECAME PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, WHAT CAN YOU DO UNITED STATES, WHAT CAN YOU DO TO HELP ALLEVIATE MY WORRY ABOUT TO HELP ALLEVIATE MY WORRY ABOUT MY GRANDCHILDREN GROWING UP IN MY GRANDCHILDREN GROWING UP IN THIS GREAT COUNTRY? THIS GREAT COUNTRY?>>YEAH.>>YEAH. SO, MIKE, WHAT YOU ARE SO, MIKE, WHAT YOU ARE EXPRESSING WITH SUCH CANDOR, EXPRESSING WITH SUCH CANDOR, WHAT I’M HEARING AROUND THE WHAT I’M HEARING AROUND THE COUNTRY. COUNTRY. PEOPLE ARE REALLY WORRIED. PEOPLE ARE REALLY WORRIED. I WAS RECENTLY DOING — I WAS I WAS RECENTLY DOING — I WAS WITH A GROUP OF PEOPLE IN IOWA WITH A GROUP OF PEOPLE IN IOWA AND IT WAS RIGHT AFTER THE AND IT WAS RIGHT AFTER THE PRESIDENT MADE THE COMMENTS PRESIDENT MADE THE COMMENTS ABOUT MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AND ABOUT MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AND TELLING THEM TO GO BACK WHERE TELLING THEM TO GO BACK WHERE THEY CAME FROM. THEY CAME FROM. AND IT WAS MY TIME TO SPEAK AND IT WAS MY TIME TO SPEAK AFTER A WOMAN SPOKE WHO TALKED AFTER A WOMAN SPOKE WHO TALKED ABOUT THE EFFECT THAT THE ABOUT THE EFFECT THAT THE PRESIDENT’S WORDS HAD ON HER PRESIDENT’S WORDS HAD ON HER CHILDREN. CHILDREN. AND IT MADE ME SO MAD. AND IT MADE ME SO MAD. BECAUSE WE CANNOT HAVE A BECAUSE WE CANNOT HAVE A PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WHO CONSISTENTLY MAKES WHO CONSISTENTLY MAKES STATEMENTS TO YOUR POINT THAT STATEMENTS TO YOUR POINT THAT ARE ABOUT DIVIDING US INSTEAD OF ARE ABOUT DIVIDING US INSTEAD OF RECOGNIZING THAT WE HAVE SO MUCH RECOGNIZING THAT WE HAVE SO MUCH MORE IN COMMON THAN WHAT MORE IN COMMON THAN WHAT SEPARATES US. SEPARATES US. AND WORDS THAT ARE ACTUALLY AND WORDS THAT ARE ACTUALLY SCARING CHILDREN. SCARING CHILDREN. SO I’LL TELL YOU, AND I PROMISE SO I’LL TELL YOU, AND I PROMISE YOU THIS. YOU THIS. I PROMISE YOU THIS. I PROMISE YOU THIS. WHEN I HAVE THAT MICROPHONE AS WHEN I HAVE THAT MICROPHONE AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, I WILL ALWAYS USE IT IN STATES, I WILL ALWAYS USE IT IN A WAY THAT IS ABOUT LIFTING A WAY THAT IS ABOUT LIFTING PEOPLE UP AND CERTAINLY NOT PEOPLE UP AND CERTAINLY NOT ABOUT BEATING THEM DOWN. ABOUT BEATING THEM DOWN. THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HAS SUCH AN INCREDIBLE STATES HAS SUCH AN INCREDIBLE POWER IN THAT MICROPHONE SHE POWER IN THAT MICROPHONE SHE HOLDS. HOLDS. AND IT IS THE POWER TO INFORM AND IT IS THE POWER TO INFORM OUR COUNTRY ABOUT PERSPECTIVE, OUR COUNTRY ABOUT PERSPECTIVE, ABOUT WHO WE ARE AND HOW WE ABOUT WHO WE ARE AND HOW WE THINK ABOUT ISSUES THROUGH THE THINK ABOUT ISSUES THROUGH THE LENS OF WHO WE’VE ALWAYS BEEN. LENS OF WHO WE’VE ALWAYS BEEN. WE ARE SO MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT WE ARE SO MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE SEEN OUT OF THIS WE HAVE SEEN OUT OF THIS PRESIDENT. PRESIDENT. HE HAS A FRAGILE EGO. HE HAS A FRAGILE EGO. HE TAKES THINGS TO THE LOWEST HE TAKES THINGS TO THE LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR, AND, COMMON DENOMINATOR, AND, FRANKLY, WHAT WE SEE IS SOMEONE FRANKLY, WHAT WE SEE IS SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT UNDERSTAND THAT A WHO DOES NOT UNDERSTAND THAT A SIGN OF STRENGTH IS NOT WHO SIGN OF STRENGTH IS NOT WHO YOU’D BEAT DOWN AND MARGINALIZE. YOU’D BEAT DOWN AND MARGINALIZE. IT’S WHO YOU’D LIFT UP. IT’S WHO YOU’D LIFT UP. THIS PRESIDENT DOESN’T GET THAT. THIS PRESIDENT DOESN’T GET THAT. I DO. I DO.>>SENATOR KAMALA HARRIS, IT’S>>SENATOR KAMALA HARRIS, IT’S ALWAYS GREAT TO HAVE YOU ON THE ALWAYS GREAT TO HAVE YOU ON THE SHOW. SHOW. THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND CONGRATULATIONS. CONGRATULATIONS.>>THANK YOU.>>THANK YOU.>>>COMING UP — HE WASN’T ON>>>COMING UP — HE WASN’T ON THE STAGE LAST NIGHT, BUT THE STAGE LAST NIGHT, BUT SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS’ POLICIES SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS’ POLICIES AND PROPOSALS WERE STILL BROUGHT AND PROPOSALS WERE STILL BROUGHT UP BY SOME OF THE CANDIDATES UP BY SOME OF THE CANDIDATES DURING NIGHT TWO OF THE SECOND DURING NIGHT TWO OF THE SECOND DEBATE.

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